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Hello! I'm back with ideas for some new species for South America. I found in my computer an archive with some ideas for fauna and flora that I had some time ago and decided to show there to ask your opinion about them. The first is about a descendant of the domestic chicken.

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I also have in this archive some names for possible species that I never developed bayond some few facts. Maybe someone could help me make their descriptions.

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JOrnitho, I'm sorry, I'll be busy these days. I'll ask you in Wednesday evening. Ok?


Ok!

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Since the local coypu is going to be a basal form of algocetus, the Holochilus could replace them as the local large water rat. Or it could remain with the same niche, but with the webbing in the feet more developed. A diving rat that search for algae and plants underwater. Perhaps a local plant could offer a food source that makes diving necessary.



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I think we will better make coypu as protosiren fraasi but smaller and holochilus a smaller version of prorastomus.

I think Lycalopex gymnocercus may be like dhole with color like Lycaon pictus but he will be individual. And local uktena will become like Aenocyon dirus guildayi making little packs ( max 10 uktenas)

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Would it be a grebe that becomes pink by feeding of local crustaceans


I think yes!

Leopardus pajeros will be specialized on hunting on social tuco-tucos (pseudomarmots)

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I think we will better make coypu as protosiren fraasi but smaller and holochilus a smaller version of prorastomus.


I agree with the idea of the coypu being similar to protosiren, but I don’t think that holochilus would be able to have the niche of prorastomus. It’s too similar to that of the coypu. This is why I suggested the Holochilus' descendant being like beaver, since the coypus of the region would have evolved to fill a sirenian niche.

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I think Lycalopex gymnocercus may be like dhole with color like Lycaon pictus but he will be individual. And local uktena will become like Aenocyon dirus guildayi making little packs ( max 10 uktenas)


Ok!

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Leopardus pajeros will be specialized on hunting on social tuco-tucos (pseudomarmots)


Good idea! It would be able to swim after the tuco-tucos if they try to escape through the water.

By the way, I don’t think that the existence of a descendant of the ocelot in Maracaibo Gulf and nearby areas would be possible. The jaguarete already exists and fills its niche, unless we consider the Awaruwape as a subspecies.

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niche of prorastomus. It’s too similar to that of the coypu.


JOrnitho, I don't think these niches are similar. Holochilus-prorastomus could be eating grass on the banks of the lake and eat Algae in the water, he will bigger then coypu with length 1,2-1,3 m with tail - 0,5 m with tall 70 cm. With muzzle 30 cm. Smooth-haired. And better social to be able to have a protection from predators. It's more interesting animal form than beaver, don't you agree?

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since the coypus of the region would have evolved to fill a sirenian niche.


protosirenian! It will have flippers instead of front legs and will remain hind legs.

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It would be able to swim after the tuco-tucos if they try to escape through the water.


Yes!

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By the way, I don’t think that the existence of a descendant of the ocelot in Maracaibo Gulf and nearby areas would be possible. The jaguarete already exists and fills its niche, unless we consider the Awaruwape as a subspecies.


Awaruwape may differ slightly, having webbed feet and flaps in its ears and nostrils for diving.

It will be endemic to Maracaibo and the surrounding region.

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By the way, do you think we can get some unique fauna in the peninsula of South Panama and the surrounding region to the Andes?
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It's more interesting animal form than beaver, don't you agree?


This is true. By feeding in the banks of the lake and the coypu feeding at the center, they could avoid the niche of each other.

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Awaruwape may differ slightly, having webbed feet and flaps in its ears and nostrils for diving.
It will be endemic to Maracaibo and the surrounding region.


In this case, I think that it’s existence is possible. It could be specialized in hunting the barocavia and the capybara-like guinea pig. Maybe the Awaruwape could share the genus with Jaguarete?
By the way, I'm working at the description of the animals of Maracaibo Gulf, already finished the Yara. I want to post all of them together.

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By the way, do you think we can get some unique fauna in the peninsula of South Panama and the surrounding region to the Andes?


It would be interesting. Maybe the Andes could cause the isolation of some species? What do you think of a local species of peccary?

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It will be endemic to Maracaibo and the surrounding region.


Felines usually have a large distribution unless they are on an island. The only exception is the kodkod, which is endemic to the Valdivian temperate rainforests, being restricted by Andes in the east, the Chilean Matorral in the north and the Magellanic subpolar forests in the south. I do not think that a feline with a so small distribution could evolve in Maracaibo area - Venezuelan Andes are not that high.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 22.03.23 23:42. Заголовок: Then Awaruwape will ..


Then Awaruwape will be more aquatic subspesies of Jaguarete (that could swim in sea water) with such areal:

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Then Awaruwape will be more aquatic subspesies of Jaguarete (that could swim in sea water) with such areal:


If you still want it to be new species, then it could be smaller like a fishing cat. However, more adapted to swim. An animal like that would be suitable to the flooded forests of Amazon.
By the way, what do you think of having the ambulocetus-like descendant of the Procyon cancrivorus being the one called tapiraiaura? It would live in the Amazon, like the folklore creature and be an apex predator. It could be the one hunting barocavias.

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Then Awaruwape will be more aquatic subspesies of Jaguarete (that could swim in sea water) with such areal:


This looks better! But what limits its distribution in the southeast? The edge of the Guianan shield?

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The edge of the Guianan shield?


Let it be!




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It would be interesting. Maybe the Andes could cause the isolation of some species?



I looked, the mammalian fauna in Southern Panama is quite unique, but there are a lot of vulnerable or already endangered species. So I made a list of mammalian species of southern Panama with LC status. There are a lot of different types of small rodents, from which we can try to make something bigger in this region.

Unfortunately, a huge number of species of local monkeys are endangered, but I would like to devote a chapter about this region to monkeys. I was interested in one quote about the relationship between different types of monkeys in Panama and other animal species. This idea could be developed somehow.
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Also it will be interesting to make a chapter about migrating along the islands and seashores of Carrebean sea and Mexican Gulf fish-eating or shrimp-eating Noctilio leporinus mastivus or Noctilio albiventris, that could be fishing sea bat, and could swim, and may be dive into the water folding it wings, like seagulls, catching small fishes and krill.

swimming bat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62T-Ht_jWHE

https://vladnews.ru/2012-08-03/42703/redkiy_letuchih
"Japanese scientists are trying to find a rare species of bats that feed on krill in the South Kuriles. At sunset, these bats fold their wings and, like seagulls, dive into the water, catching krill. They tend to sit on fishing buoys in the sea. Scientists have discovered this kind of bats on the Japanese island Hokkaido, in their opinion, we should have the same bats. According to Japanese colleagues, this type of bats is nowhere else in the world."

We have in neocene two fish eating bat species
http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/2islocea.htm#pseudonoctilio_laroides_en
http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/2inselva.htm#latiodon_paludiphilus_en

A lot of bats migrating across the sea catching the insects in air and crustaceans in the surface waters
https://academic.oup.com/jmammal/article/90/6/1318/898402

The ways of migrations across the sea waters of neocene sea Greater Bulldog Bat or Lesser bulldog bat (may be the last one could dive folding their wings for cathing shrimp, like the rare bats of Hokkaido)
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If you still want it to be new species, then it could be smaller like a fishing cat. However, more adapted to swim. An animal like that would be suitable to the flooded forests of Amazon.



We can make this smaller like fishing cat animal, suitable to the flooded forests of Amazon, from yagouaroundi - it's swim very good.


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By the way, what do you think of having the ambulocetus-like descendant of the Procyon cancrivorus being the one called tapiraiaura? It would live in the Amazon, like the folklore creature and be an apex predator. It could be the one hunting barocavias.


Ok! Then we will find another name to the jaguar like descendant of Geoffroy's cat in salt lake Mar Chiquita.

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I looked, the mammalian fauna in Southern Panama is quite unique, but there are a lot of vulnerable or already endangered species. So I made a list of mammalian species of southern Panama with LC status. There are a lot of different types of small rodents, from which we can try to make something bigger in this region.


Don't forget that we can also have descendants of domestic animals that could have survived as feral. Can we make an interesting animal with Oligoryzomys fulvescens? I'm working at my internship with this genus at the moment. More precisely, Oligoryzomys microtis.

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Hoplomys gymnurus (This is a very interesting spiny animal related to nutria. If we make it aquatic, then we can get something like an aquatic porcupine, if we make it arboreal, then we can get something like a prickly squirrel or even a prickly monkey.)


Is there any night monkey in the region? If not, this rodent could partialy fill their niche and that of a squirrel during the night. It also could have more developed spines.

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18. Scotinomys teguina (North Panama) - singing rat (may be will make something like howling microwolf? )


I like it! It already is a predatory rodent, hunting insects. What do you thinnk if their descendants start to also hunt small vertebrates? Perhaps they also start to hunt in small groups.

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Vampires (i think we will use them)
84. Desmodus rotundus
85. Diaemus youngi


Maybe a giant vampire bat? With large megafauna being around, I thought that it could exist. I had this idea some time ago. What do you think of the name Camazotz, the god of death in Maia mythology. It could have a relative called Caoera. The Mura people, an indigenous people in Brazil, had legends about a a blood-eating bat the size of a vulture that was called this way.

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Unfortunately i don't know japanese to find reliable information about the Hokkaido diving bat, but even if they couldn't dive they can do like other bats that are migrating across the sea: "catching the insects in air and crustaceans and small fishes in the surface waters".


While I'm unsure about the reliability of these articles, since I didn't find any mention about it elsewhere, a bat fishing at sea is a good idea. It already exist in the Neocene, we could very well have another species with a similar lifestyle living in Caribbean waters and the Gulf of Mexico. What do you think of their main prey being a lanternfish? This species rise into the epipelagic zone during the sundown. At night it would be a perfect prey for these bats. We could have some interesting morphology with its phophores. If you want a migratory bat, this species could live in cold areas near the Atlantic sea of North America (maybe even in Mishe-Nama Lake). It could migrate to Caribbean islands and Panama. Their arrival in these regions could match the beginning of the reproductive period of this new species of lanternfish, when thay start to produce more light close to the surface.


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We can make this smaller like fishing cat animal, suitable to the flooded forests of Amazon, from yagouaroundi - it's swim very good.


It's an interesting idea! It could live in the flooded forests, hunting in the water and resting in the the trees. During the dry season, they could visit the small streams.

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I think it's too much for us both, let's finish with Maracaibo gulf and then continue with the rest of the chapters, if it is interesting for you


Yes! I'll finish the description of the animals of this chapter. I'll have most of it done by Saturday.

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Well I have proposed two much ideas of the chapters:
1. Gulf Maracaibo.
2. General Carrera Lake.
3. Salt lake Mar Chiquita.
4. Peninsula South Panama.
5. Migrating sea bats of Caribbean sea.

I think it's too much for us both, let's finish with Maracaibo gulf and then continue with the rest of the chapters, if it is interesting for you

Also I have an idea of chapter about Brazilian Serrado, but it is in Russian section of forum
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"Japanese scientists are trying to find a rare species of bats that feed on krill in the South Kuriles. At sunset, these bats fold their wings and, like seagulls, dive into the water, catching krill. They tend to sit on fishing buoys in the sea. Scientists have discovered this kind of bats on the Japanese island Hokkaido, in their opinion, we should have the same bats. According to Japanese colleagues, this type of bats is nowhere else in the world."


Taking into account that they used a photo of a fruit bat, it may be not so reliable. Could you find another source? And I think that bones of the bats are too fragile for diving.

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We can make this smaller like fishing cat animal, suitable to the flooded forests of Amazon, from yagouaroundi - it's swim very good.


https://www.deviantart.com/viergacht/art/River-Cat-or-Leon-del-Lago-118828925
I just remembered this)

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Taking into account that they used a photo of a fruit bat, it may be not so reliable. Could you find another source? And I think that bones of the bats are too fragile for diving.


https://sakh.online/news/18/2012-08-03/redkiy-vid-letuchih-myshey-nyryayuschih-v-more-izuchat-yaponskie-uchenye-na-yuzhnyh-kurilah-303358
Other source about this expedition and this very rare diving bats of Hokkaido? But there is no photos of this bat.

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Can we make an interesting animal with Oligoryzomys fulvescens?


Yes, of course, but what is yout suggesting?

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Is there any night monkey in the region? If not, this rodent could partialy fill their niche and that of a squirrel during the night. It also could have more developed spines.



wovoka пишет:

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Aotus trivirgatus


But we can differ their diet to have them differrent niche and I also want to make something like water porcupine from this rodent.

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Maybe a giant vampire bat?


Yes and it can live everywere in South America were we have any megafauna species, especially barocavias and giant pacas.

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we could very well have another species with a similar lifestyle living in Caribbean waters and the Gulf of Mexico. What do you think of their main prey being a lanternfish? This species rise into the epipelagic zone during the sundown. At night it would be a perfect prey for these bats. We could have some interesting morphology with its phophores. If you want a migratory bat, this species could live in cold areas near the Atlantic sea of North America (maybe even in Mishe-Nama Lake). It could migrate to Caribbean islands and Panama. Their arrival in these regions could match the beginning of the reproductive period of this new species of lanternfish, when thay start to produce more light close to the surface.


I'll try to make a description of this two sea bats this or next weak and then we will discuss the details. Ok?

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It's an interesting idea! It could live in the flooded forests, hunting in the water and resting in the the trees. During the dry season, they could visit the small streams.


Yes that is good idea!

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It already is a predatory rodent, hunting insects. What do you thinnk if their descendants start to also hunt small vertebrates? Perhaps they also start to hunt in small groups


I also aggree. We will left rhem in north Panama or they will be in south Panama?

Or we can take also Scotinomys xerampelinus they will live one in Peninsula North Panama and the other in Peninsula South Panama and will have some differences living in differrent continents.

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Yes! I'll finish the description of the animals of this chapter. I'll have most of it done by Saturday.


Well, when you will finish the descriptions let's discuss the structure of the chapter. Whom you want to make the main hero or heroes of the chapter?

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General Carrera Lake.


The future chapter let's take General Carrera Lake.

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Yes, of course, but what is yout suggesting?


I was thinking that it could dig, making long underground tunnels.

wovoka пишет:

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But we can differ their diet to have them differrent niche and I also want to make something like water porcupine from this rodent.


They can have a more squirrel-like diet. I'll need to search about their ability of swimming, but perhaps we could have this water porcupine being a descendant of Coendou.

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I'll try to make a description of this two sea bats this or next weak and then we will discuss the details. Ok?


Ok!

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I also aggree. We will left rhem in north Panama or they will be in south Panama?


Perhaps it's a genus with close related species living in both areas? It could be a result of the separation of Panama.

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Well, when you will finish the descriptions let's discuss the structure of the chapter. Whom you want to make the main hero or heroes of the chapter?


Maybe a female yara and her first pup? We can cover in the chapter how the young learns about his environment.

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Unfortunately i don't know japanese to find reliable information about the Hokkaido diving bat, but even if they couldn't dive they can do like other bats that are migrating across the sea: "catching the insects in air and crustaceans and small fishes in the surface waters".

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even if they couldn't dive they can do like other bats that are migrating across the sea: "catching the insects in air and crustaceans and small fishes in the surface waters".


This looks more realistic.

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This looks more realistic.


Ok!

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I was thinking that it could dig, making long underground tunnels.


I agree.

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They can have a more squirrel-like diet.


Yes, good idea!

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I'll need to search about their ability of swimming, but perhaps we could have this water porcupine being a descendant of Coendou.


Ok, it will be good if you'll find that information. But Coendou also will be good.

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Perhaps it's a genus with close related species living in both areas? It could be a result of the separation of Panama.


Let it be!
Well, doesn't it look like a micro wolf?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Male_Alston%27s_singing_mouse_%28Scotinomys_teguina%29_singing.ogv

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Maybe a female yara and her first pup? We can cover in the chapter how the young learns about his environment.


Good idea for the chapter!

Let's review what species we decided to settle in Maracaibo Gulf and their names.
May be we forgot someone?

Here will be:
Barocavia
http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/2shadwng.htm#barocavia_potamophyla_en

Caribbean algocetus
http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/enmammal.htm#xenalgocetus_diodon_en

Atlantic bat turtle
http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/enrept.htm#pteromedusa_vespertilionina_en
Maybe in Maracaibo Gulf will be nesting some smaller subspecies of this turtle?

New species
1. Yara - water descendent of tayra.
2. Awaruwape - semiaquatic swimming in salt sea water jaguar-like descendent of ocelot
3. Tapiraiaura - the ambulocetus-like descendant of the Procyon cancrivorus
3. Cabiai-pyinko - peccary-like descendent of brazilian guinea pig
4. Meku - semiaquatic collective descendent of Humboldt's white-fronted capuchin (Cebus albifrons) (Meku is Caribbean name of other capuchin monkey Cebus apella: brown capuchin, i think that neocene water monkeys will be more like brown capuchin wih the same color and form of body)
5. Karara - flightless descendent of giant darter (Anhinga) (in Carib language karara means and darter, and cormorant).
6. Karapisuru - descendent of Porphyrula martinica
7. Some descendent of the rail (I've forgotten whom you had chosen)
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6. Kàwiriri - descendent of Dendrocygna autumnalis (Kàwiriri - is the name of this duck in carib language).
7. Cyculi - descendent of sungrebe (Heliornis fulica) (Cyculi - is the name of the bird in Guahibo language) or you decided not to take this bird?
8. Kusa - descendant of blue crab (Ucides cordatus)
9. Sakompo - giant sea water snake analogue of Anaconda (carib name of Boidae family) or we can call it Urupere carib mithological snake monster


May be there will be one of this snakes, if you plan describing them?
Kuwasakara - watersnake sp. ( it can be Pseudoeryx relictualis, Helicops scalaris, Hydrops triangularis, Liophis spp.)
Akurimopi - indigosnake (Drymarchon corais)
Asakaimo - rattlesnake [Crotalus durissus)
Okoju (it is spelling okoyu) - Xenodon severus

Turtles
Arakaka - Guiana wood turtle, scorpion mud turtle, galap (Rhinoclemmys punctularia) - sometimes found in Lake Maracaibo, we can give this name arakaka to Rhinoclemmys diademata (the endemic of Maracaibo)

I was looking for the name for the name Podilymbus podiceps in some indian language and I propose the name Kaarai – the name of any water bird species in Wayuu language (language of Guajiro Indians that living on the banks of Maracaibo lake)

and looking for the indian bird names I'm proposing also to describe:
Teitei - descendent of Vanellus chilensis (the name in wayuu language)
Katipirüin - descendent of Pyrocephalus obscurus (the name in wayuu language) - it will be catching flies, mosquitoes and different parasites on the bodies of barocavias and Cabiai-pyinko.
And Warulapai - big predator bird catching big fish, water snakes, little turtles, water birds and also cubs of Yaras, Algocetuses, Tapiraiaura, Meku, Cabiai-pyinko. But I don't know who will be the ancestor of this bird. Osprey is extinct in neocene. It may be Circus buffoni.

Or maybe the ancestor will be some parrot. We have already fish-eating parrot Psittacohamiota longipes in neocene in Mauritius island. Unfortunately Aras extinct to neocene, they could be such predatory birds
Maybe Brotogeris jugularis (now it can eating insects and algae) or Pionus menstruus (it can leave along rivers and can eat canterpillars) maybe through 25 ml years they will become bigger and become either omnivorous or predatory, or even water predatory birds.

Parrot is Kotooro in wayuu language.
If we make big water predatory parrot we can give him name Warulapai-Kotooro

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