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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 25.03.22 17:24. Заголовок: Galliformes and other animals for South America (продолжение)


Hello! I'm back with ideas for some new species for South America. I found in my computer an archive with some ideas for fauna and flora that I had some time ago and decided to show there to ask your opinion about them. The first is about a descendant of the domestic chicken.

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I also have in this archive some names for possible species that I never developed bayond some few facts. Maybe someone could help me make their descriptions.

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I'm agree with Медведь.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 29.11.22 13:03. Заголовок: JOrnitho Maybe an i..


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Maybe an insular species of deermara?


I don't know if a species similar in size and niche can avoid competition with deermara, but possible.

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Besides Great Antigua and Fernando de Noronha, there is any other island close to Neocenic South America where such animal could live?


There are islands closer to southern part of South America (towards Antarctic), maybe this will do?

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There are islands closer to southern part of South America (towards Antarctic), maybe this will do?


By the map of the Neocene, the Valdes Peninsula became an island. Maybe this insular deermara could live here. It could even have other interesting fauna, don’t you think?

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I don't think so. It is too close to the mainland to develop endemic fauna.

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I also agree with медведь.

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Yes, this makes sense. I'll think in something else.

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Do you think that could be possible for the tree porcupines of South America to develope modified quills that give them an armored like appearance? Or with an adaptation like that of the Cataphractherium of Africa? While they would be slow in the trees, the "armor" would protect them.

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to develope modified quills that give them an armored like appearance


Scaly porcupines already exist!
Part "Caribbean Ark" http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/1karibkv.htm in Russian part of the project - mountain scaly porcupine Squamodermus setosus from Great Antigua.

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I don't see reasons for this adaptotion - armadillos are still exist in neocene, and this form would be less adaptated for arboreal lifestyle.

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Scaly porcupines already exist!


I didn’t saw that, my bad.

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I don't see reasons for this adaptotion - armadillos are still exist in neocene, and this form would be less adaptated for arboreal lifestyle.


I thought that they could be like the tree pangolins in appearance, but the porcupines would be herbivore. It reminds me that sometime ago I proposed a semi-arboreal armadillo.

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reasons for this adaptotion


Armadillos and porcupines will surely occupy different niches, due to the difference in their diet (insectivorous vs herbivorous). By the way, porcupines exist side by side with pangolins (as counterparts of armadillos) in Africa.

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This is why I thought that the armored porcupines of South America could exist, since they would fill a different niche. By the way, how is the fauna of rodents in the continent during the Neocene? Could the project use more species or is there enough of them?

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I think there's enough of them.

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Even small ones? I wanted to make some Cricetidae and Echmyidae descendants.

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Cricetidae


Hamsters! OK, I think there are some free niches for them.

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Echmyidae


Oh, these can develop real quills from their hair just like porcupines.

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Yes! Both are my favourite families of rodents. One of the Echmyidae in Brazil, the Amazon bamboo rat, is a very vocal one. His voice is common during the night of the rainforest.

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Hamsters! OK, I think there are some free niches for them.


What do you think of a hamster like Cricetidae living in the savannas and open areas of South America?

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hamster like Cricetidae living in the savannas and open areas of South America


What is the ancestor?

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What is the ancestor?


The rodents of the genus Cerradomys.

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OK, so be it.

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I finished the description of the rodent. I was wondering if another species could live in the Island of Valdés, which used to be a peninsula during the Holocene.

Cerrado hamster (Paracricetus savana)
Order: Rodentia
Family: Cricetidae
Habitat: Savannas of Central South America.
The transition between the Holocene and Neocene had opened several niches that new species could exploit. In South America, a group of rodents descending from the Genus Cerradomys had evolved to survive in the open grasslands of the central areas of the continent. They form the Genus Paracricetus, the New World hamsters. The type species is the Cerrado hamster, a inhabitant of the savannas of Central South America.

While only being distantly related to the true hamsters, the members of the Genus Paracricetus had a similar appearance to them due to a case of convergent evolution. They developed elastic cheek pouches, which are used to help them move food to be stored in their dens. The Cerrado hamster is the largest representative of this group, with 20 cm of length. Unlike true hamsters, the Paracricetus have a relatively long tail. In the Cerrado hamster, it measures 9 cm. This species has brown fur in their upperparts, while the chest and belly are black.

This species eats seeds, legumes, root vegetables, grasses and insects. It transports its food in its elastic cheek pouches to the food storage chambers, which can be large.

The common hamster is a nocturnal and crepuscular species that lives in a complex burrow system. They are monogamous, in the case of the death of one of the members of the pair, the other will seek a new partner immediately. This species breed during the entire year.The gestation period is 18 days and the size of the litter ranges from three to 15 young, which are weaned when aged three weeks. The female can become pregnant again shortly after giving birth. Sexual maturity is reached when they are about 43 days old. At this age, they will be expelled by their parents from their territory. The lifespan of this species is one year.

The Patagonian hamster (Paracricetus patagonicus) is another representative of this genus. An inhabitant of the Patagonian plains. They have 18 cm of length and a yellowish-brown fur with white underparts. Due to the cold winters of Patagonia, this species stores more food than their Northern relatives, making great piles in their dens. During this period, the Patagonian hamster hibernates, waking every five to seven days to feed from the storage chambers.

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