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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 25.03.22 17:24. Заголовок: Galliformes and other animals for South America


Hello! I'm back with ideas for some new species for South America. I found in my computer an archive with some ideas for fauna and flora that I had some time ago and decided to show there to ask your opinion about them. The first is about a descendant of the domestic chicken.

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I also have in this archive some names for possible species that I never developed bayond some few facts. Maybe someone could help me make their descriptions.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 24.06.22 10:41. Заголовок: JOrnitho What could..


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What could be an interesting niche for a cuculid to have in South America? Most of the species here aren’t parasitic, so I was thinking if these species could have some new niches that their ancestors didn’t had.


May be, a ground runner, like Geococcyx?

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parasitic species


Which parasitic species?

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Piaya, Coccyzus or Guira


Wikipedia states that Coccyzus species are partially, but not obligately, parasitic (sometimes lay eggs in other birds' nests).

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May be, a ground runner, like Geococcyx?


Here in South America we have the genus Neomorphus, the New World ground cuckoos. They are very threatened by deforestation. Perhaps they could be restricted to Amazon, while another species evolved to be an analogue of the Geococcyx in the rest of their territory.

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Which parasitic species?


The striped cuckoo (Tapera naevia) or the genus Dromococcyx. Their descendants could be obligated parasites of other cuckoos.

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Wikipedia states that Coccyzus species are partially, but not obligately, parasitic (sometimes lay eggs in other birds' nests).



Yes, I was thinking that one of their descendants could only lay eggs in their on nests. They would eat insects, having a preference for stinging caterpillar. They could be imune to their toxic substances.

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Here in South America we have the genus Neomorphus, the New World ground cuckoos. They are very threatened by deforestation. Perhaps they could be restricted to Amazon, while another species evolved to be an analogue of the Geococcyx in the rest of their territory.


Yes, why not? Your Neomorphus can survivve and give descendants in rainforests after the humans is gone, while a new species can develop in grasslands or mountains.

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striped cuckoo (Tapera naevia)


Ah, I've read about Brazilian folklore character - the Saci! The name for descendant species is ready - the saci!

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They would eat insects, having a preference for stinging caterpillar. They could be imune to their toxic substances.


Just like the common cuckoo. It eats hairy venomous caterpillars constantly.

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Your Neomorphus can survivve and give descendants in rainforests after the humans is gone, while a new species can develop in grasslands or mountains.


I was also thinking that the new species could also live in the Atlantic forests, filling the niche that the Neomorphus left here.

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Ah, I've read about Brazilian folklore character - the Saci! The name for descendant species is ready - the saci!


This is really good! The striped cuckoo is already called this way in some parts of Brazil, this name fits well to this new species. Perhaps we could also add some of the characteristics of the mischief made by the creature from folklore in the description of the birds strategy to put eggs in the nest of other cuckoos.

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new species could also live in the Atlantic forests, filling the niche that the Neomorphus left here


Yes, why not.

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Perhaps we could also add some of the characteristics of the mischief made by the creature from folklore in the description of the birds strategy to put eggs in the nest of other cuckoos.


Yes, excellent!

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 26.06.22 05:07. Заголовок: I finished the descr..


I finished the description of the cukoos.

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Wow, four in a row! Great!

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Sometime ago I made this description for a new family derived of the Dendrocolaptidae. Do you have ideas for how it could avoid direct competition with the woodpeckers?

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May be, they could be nocturnal? Or they could eat some insects that true woodpeckers do not eat?

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May be, they could be nocturnal? Or they could eat some insects that true woodpeckers do not eat?


These are interesting ideas! Maybe these birds could feed mostly on ants and termites, using the beak open the nest of these insects. Or they could eat larvae and adults of a poisonous family of beetles that appeared in the Neocene. Their saliva could be sticky to capture these insects and they would be imune to the poison. They could also be more active during crepuscular hours.

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Their saliva could be sticky to capture these insects and they would be imune to the poison.


Very good! Add there a long tongue, like in Chameleo boatbill (the chapter "Stormy Forest").

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I added these new information in the description. I think that these differences are enough to maintain it in a new family, rather than in the Dendrocolaptidae.

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OK, so be it!

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I made these descriptions in homage to the entrance of their ancestors in the official list of birds of Brazil. They came from Argentina and Uruguay and are here to stay.

Yellow-winged goldfinch (Carduelis xanthopteron)
Order: Passeriformes
Family: Fringillidae
Habitat: Forests and woodlands of Southern South America
During the Holocene, the man introduced many species to other continents. One of these species was the European goldfinch (Carduelis carduelis), introduced in Southern South America. This species was able to survive and in the Neocene they gave rise to a new species, the yellow-winged goldfinch. This bird inhabits forests and woodlands of Southern South America, migrating to the Atlantic rainforest of South America and to the terra firme forests of Amazon, where it is found in the understorey parts of it.
The yellow-winged goldfinch is 12 to 13 cm long, with a wingspan of 21 to 25 cm. This species is sexual dysmorphic, with the male having a large dark red head. In females, the head is pale red. Their plumage is chocolate brown in the upper parts and creamy-white in the underparts with dark brown flanks and breast patches. Their main characteristic is the bright yellow primaries and secondary feathers, present in both sexes. The bill is ivory-colored, long and pointed, and the tail is forked. Birds in breeding condition have a white bill, with a blackish mark at the tip for the rest of the year. Juveniles have a plain head and a greyer back but are unmistakable due to the yellow wing stripe. The legs are pale grey.
The preferred food of these birds is small seeds and berries, but insects are also taken when feeding young. They forage in flocks, sometimes mixed with other species.
The yellow-winged goldfinch is mostly monogamous, but males can occasionally breed with at least two females. The nest is built entirely by the female and is generally completed within a week. The male accompanies the female, but does not contribute. The nest is neat and compact and is generally located several metres above the ground, hidden by leaves in the twigs at the end of a swaying branch. It is constructed of mosses and lichens and lined with plant down. It is attached to the twigs of the tree with spider silk. A deep cup prevents the loss of eggs in windy weather. Beginning within a couple of days after the completion of the nest, the eggs are laid in the early morning at daily intervals. The clutch is typically 4-6 eggs, which are whitish with reddish-brown speckles. They have a smooth surface and are slightly glossy.
The eggs are incubated for 11 to 13 days by the female, who is fed by the male. The chicks are fed by both parents. Initially they receive a mixture of seeds, berries and insects, but as they grow the proportion of insect material decreases. For the first 7 to 9 days the young are brooded by the female. The nestlings fledge 15 days after hatching. The young birds are fed by both parents for a further 9 days. The parents typically raise two broods before migrating in the winter. Sexual maturity is reached when the chicks are in their winter areas, with them being able to breed as soon as they return in spring. Their lifespan is 9 years.

Scaled starling (Sturnus squamosus)
Order: Passeriformes
Family: Sturnidae
During the Holocene, the man introduced many species to other continents. One of these species was the common starling (Sturnus vulgaris), introduced in Southern South America. This species was capable of surviving, giving rise to the scaled starling in the Neocene. This gregarious bird inhabits all the biomes from the temperate forests of Tierra del Fuego to the Atlantic forests of Southeastern South America. The population that inhabits the temperate areas migrate in large flocks of thousand individuals to the Amazon rainforest during the austral winter. Upon reaching their wintering areas, the flocks disperse.
Scaled starlings have 18 to 22 cm of length and a wingspan of 30 to 43 cm. The plumage is iridescent purple with dark edges on the feathers, giving the bird a "scaly" appearance. During the winter, their plumage becomes more dull and full of white spots in the belly and chest. Juveniles are grey-brown and by their first winter resemble adults though often retaining some brown juvenile feathering, especially on the head. Their sharp, blade-like bill is bright yellow, while the legs and feet are bright orange.
The scaled starling is largely insectivorous and feeds on several types of insects. Prey are consumed in both adult and larvae stages of development, and common starlings will also feed on earthworms, snails, small amphibians and lizards. While the consumption of invertebrates is necessary for successful breeding, common starlings are omnivorous and can also eat grains, seeds, fruits and nectar if the opportunity arises.
These birds are monogamous, but the males can occasionally breed with more than one female. For the population living in the temperate areas of South America, the breeding season happens during the winter, while those living in tropical areas can breed during the entire year. Unpaired males find a suitable cavity and begin to build nests in order to attract single females, often decorating the nest with ornaments such as flowers and fresh green material, which the female later disassembles upon accepting him as a mate. The amount of green material is not important, as long as some is present, but the presence of herbs in the decorative material is important in attracting a mate.
The males sing throughout much of the construction and even more so when a female approaches his nest. Following copulation, the male and female continue to build the nest. Nests may be in any type of hole, common locations include inside hollowed trees and tree stumps. The female lays eggs on a daily basis over a period of several days. If an egg is lost during this time, she will lay another to replace it. There are normally four or five eggs that are ovoid in shape and white. Incubation lasts thirteen days, although the last egg laid may take 24 hours longer than the first to hatch. Both parents share the responsibility of brooding the eggs, but the female spends more time incubating them than does the male, and is the only parent to do so at night when the male returns to the communal roost. The young are born blind and naked. They develop light fluffy down within seven days of hatching and can see within nine days. Nestlings remain in the nest for three weeks, where they are fed continuously by both parents. Fledglings continue to be fed for another one or two weeks after leaving the nest. The lifespan of this species is 20 years, but many perish before even reaching 5 years.

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Some more descriptions because I was very inspired after the weekend.

Common melodious wren, or Common eastern uirapuru (Cambaxirra canora)
The human actions during the Holocene caused the decline of many species. However some species survived and in the Neocene they gave rise to new species. One of these new species is the common melodious wren, a descendant of the birds of the Genus Troglodytes. These birds are also the type species of the Genus Cambaxirra, the Eastern uirapurus. While cambaxirra was a common brazilian name for Troglodytes birds, the word uirapuru was a name used by the Tupi-guarani people to name some species of passerines, more famous used to name birds of the Genus Cyphorhinus, which descendants in the Neocene are endemic to the Amazon rainforest as members of the Genus Irapuru. The common melodious wren is endemic to the Atlantic rainforest of Southeastern and Northeastern South America.
The common melodious wren is a small bird, the adults are 13 to 15 cm long with a wingspan of 17 cm. Their plumage is brown, being darker on the upperparts and lighter on the throat and chest. They have blackish barring to the wings, tail and to the flanks. The bill is thin with a blackish upper mandible, and a black-tipped pale grey lower mandible. The legs are pinkish or grey. The short tail has a white tip and is typically held cocked.
These birds forage actively in the lower areas of the forest vegetation, never going to the canopy. They mainly eat insects such as butterfly larvae, also spiders and snails. The common melodious wren rarely attend mixed-species feeding flocks.
The common melodious wren doesn't form flocks, being solitary or living in pairs. These birds are monogamous, with the bonded pair being aggressive to members of their own species. Such aggressiveness increases during the nesting season. Their courtship starts during rainy summer months, with the male singing an elaborated and agradable song to attract the female. Usually, he does it in a branch close to the ground. The female will land near him and, if she is pleased by it, will sing with him. This melodious species has different types of songs to use on several occasions. For example, those used to mark territory is different from those used by mated pairs in their "duet" to strengthen their bond.
They usually construct a large cup nest in various sorts of cavities, taking about a week to build. The nest is made from small dry sticks and is usually lined with a variety of different materials. These include: feather, hair, wool, spider cocoons, strips of bark, rootlets and moss. The male wren finds dry sticks, which he adds to the nest. Once he is done, the female inspects the nest; but if she does not approve of the construction, she will throw any unwanted sticks to the ground. After this process, the female lines the nest. Nest cavities are usually a few meters above ground at most, but they can occasionally have nests in high cliffs.
The common melodious wrens' clutch is usually between two and eight red-blotched cream eggs. Only the female incubates these, for around 12–19 days, and she will every now and then leave the nest for various reasons. While she is in the nest, the male provides her with food. The young, which like all passerines hatch almost naked and helpless, take another 15–19 days or so to fledge. They are fed by both parents, and need plenty of food given their tiny size. As the young near fledgling, the parents spend much of their time procuring food for them. They reach sexual maturity with 6 months and have a lifespan of 7 years.
There are other species in the genus Cambaxirra, with each one of them having different songs. The Noronha melodious wren (Cambaxirra noronhensis) is endemic to the Archipelago of Fernando de Noronha. They have 11 cm of length and a wingspan of 22 cm. Their plumage is rufous brown above, pale gray below, barred with darker brown and black, even on wings and tail. The bill is dark brown, the legs pale brown. Young birds are less distinctly barred. The restinga melodious wren, or restinga eastern uirapuru (Cambaxirra litoralis) is endemic to the Atlantic coast restingas, an ecoregion closely associated with the Atlantic forest. They have 13 cm of length and 24 cm of wingspan. They have brown head and upperparts, barred with black on the wings and narrow tail. It has a stronger buff eyebrow stripe and black eyestripe. Their underparts are gray and white in the throat. The flanks and undertail coverts have dark brown bars. Another species is the serra melodious wren (Cambaxirra serrana), which is endemic to the mountainous Atlantic forests of Southeastern South America. They have 12 cm of length and 23 cm of wingspan. They have brown upperparts with small black and white spots and pale grey underparts with a light brown rump. Additional distinctive features include a dark grey line over the eye. The last representative of this genus is the southern melodious wren (Cambaxirra australis), which inhabits the forests of Southern South America. They have brown upperparts with a reddish-brown belly and flanks and a white throat and breast. The back is black with white stripes. They have a dark cap with a white line over the eyes. During winter, this species migrates to the areas of Southern Amazon rainforest.

Marvelous musician wren, or marvelous true-uirapuru (Irapuru mirus)
The human actions during the Holocene caused the decline of many species. The Amazon rainforest suffered with deforestation and exploitation of its soil for the extraction of gold and other valuable minerals. Many species were only able to survive such an onslaught because they retreated to remote areas that were difficult for the humans to reach. Living safely in these areas, they continued to evolve. Now, their descendants in the Neocene are the signals of their success. One of these animals is the marvelous musician wren, the type species of the Genus Irapuru. This bird is a descendant of the Genus Cyphorhinus, called as uirapurus by the Tupi people of Brazil.
The marvelous musician wren have 13 cm of length and 20 cm of wingspan. The adult has a dark brown forehead and forecrown that becomes chestnut brown in the back and rump. It has a narrow white supercilium, a chestnut brown stripe behind the eye, and an orange-brown throat and chest. The tail is brown with cream-white tips. Its flanks and lower belly are yellowish brown. The juvenile is similar but sometimes has faint barring on its lower belly. The beak and legs are pale grey. Their vocalization is a series of agradable whistles, varying greatly in pitch.
This bird forages primarily on and near the ground, searching debris and leaf litter. Its diet is mostly invertebrates, including insects, spiders, and crustaceans, but it also occasionally eats berries. It usually forages alone or in pairs. Though it sometimes follows army ant swarms it does not usually join mixed-species foraging flocks.
The marvelous musician wren is monogamous, with pairs staying together for the rest of their lives. The breeding season starts during the beginning of the dry season. Males that don’t have pairs will congregate in a clean part of the forest ground. Here they will realize a specific vocalization to attract the females. With one land near them, the males will sing a song used for courtship. If she chose one of them, the female will approach him and start to make a "duet" with the male. These presentations can have from two to seven males and the order of the singing to the female is decided through intimidation and sometimes by fights between the males. Mated pairs will sing in "duet" to strengthen their bond.
The parents work together to build the nest, which is spherical with an entrance through a funnel-shaped path and is constructed of pieces of leaves and coarse grass. The female lays two white eggs. She is the only responsible for incubating them, with the male bringing food for her and protecting the area of the nest against members of their own species. The incubation lasts for 15 days. The young hatch almost naked and helpless, taking another 16 days to fledge. They are fed by both parents, and need plenty of food given their tiny size. As the young near fledgling, the parents spend much of their time procuring food for them. They reach sexual maturity with 7 months and have a lifespan of 8 years.
The Tepui musician wren, or Tepui true-uirapuru (Irapuru canorus) is another species of the genus Irapuru. This species inhabits the tepuis located in the Northern areas of Amazon. They have 11 cm of length and 18 cm of wingspan. They have a similar plumage to that of the Marvelous musician wren, with the only exception being the reddish-brown feathers in their underparts. Their song is also different from that of the lowland species. Another member of the genus is the Andean musician wren, or Andean true-uirapuru (Irapuru andinus). This species inhabits the altitude forests in the slopes of the Andes. They have 12 cm of length and 19 cm of wingspan. Their plumage is similar to that of their congenere, except for the lack of white supercilium and the presence of creamy-white feathers in the belly. Their song is also different and the males do not congregate in groups to present for the female, rather being very aggressive to each other during the breeding.

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Great inspiration! Two more good species!

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I was thinking if you had ideas for other interesting birds for South America. Maybe some that could have an interesting relation with army ant or that were endemic to a small area. I like to discuss ideas of other people, or how some of my friends say, "we could brainstorm together".
Also, I was thinking about the possibility of a medium-sized Cotinga that have elaborate courtship like the birds-of-paradise living here.

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Firstly, the birds in relationship with ants. It depends on which birds and which ants. Army ants already present in neocene have no relations with birds, since army ants do not inhabit one place constantly.
Secondly, the cotingas. Here, the bellbirds are interesting, as they could give descendants with more specialized vocal calls used to either/both mark the territory, call for mating partner and/or repel enemies with different calls.

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Army ants already present in neocene have no relations with birds, since army ants do not inhabit one place constantly.


This is interesting. There is species of birds in South America that follow ants. Some are obligate, taking most of their diet from them. Maybe a family of nomad birds appeared, one that constantly follows the insects. Also, these ants that they follow would need to be a diurnal species.

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