Отправлено: 03.07.22 18:18. Заголовок: Chapter Ideas

A collection of new chapter ideas proposed by foreign members in English.
These are already present, thanks to JOrnitho:
1. Easter Island - bestiary
2. Fernando de Noronha - bestiary
3. Marvellous Forest - about Atlantic forest - bestiary
4. A Trip across Highland - about a trip of Andean antelope, bestiary
5. A War for the Hollow - about a "war" against killer bees in South America, bestiary
6. Andaman and Nicobar islands - bestiary
7. A Stone Condominimum - about a sociable hornero and its parasites and enemies, bestiary

 Отправлено: 23.06.23 08:25. Заголовок: wovoka absolutely n..

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absolutely nocturnal social bees

I think this idea is realistic, because niche of diurnal pollinators is already full and has many concurence. So, some bees can escape from it to nocturnal niches.
But what flowers they will pollinate? Dragonfruit-like cacti that open theit flowers only at night?

 Отправлено: 23.06.23 14:46. Заголовок: лягушка пишет: But ..

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But what flowers they will pollinate?

Now nocturnal bees Megalopta pollinates Paullinia cupana, which blooms and at the day and at the night, and the scents of its flowers are different in the day and in the night to attract different pollinators (diurnal and nocturnal).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080595/

Also they pollinating Spondias mombin ( it blooms in morning twilight). This is an interesting plant because is absolutely edible: fruits, leaves, roots, shoots, sap. Especially you can drink sap from the roots if you have no water nearby.

I think, both plants will be good food for monkeys.

 Отправлено: 23.06.23 15:22. Заголовок: wovoka пишет: Now n..

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Now nocturnal bees Megalopta pollinates Paullinia cupana, which blooms and at the day and at the night, and the scents of its flowers are different in the day and in the night to attract different pollinators (diurnal and nocturnal).

They could have evolved to have a stronger scent during the night, like the Cestrum nocturnum.

 Отправлено: 23.06.23 16:24. Заголовок: JOrnitho пишет: The..

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They could have evolved to have a stronger scent during the night, like the Cestrum nocturnum.

I think it's possible.

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Dragonfruit-like cacti that open theit flowers only at night?

There is in Brazil nightblooming Dragonfruit (Hylocereus undatus or just Nightblooming cactus), but it's areal does not suit us.
https://www.gbif.org/species/3084394

We can make social nocturnal Megalopta in Atlantic forest to pollinate in the night this cactus.

 Отправлено: 23.06.23 18:50. Заголовок: wovoka пишет: We ca..

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We can make social nocturnal Megalopta in Atlantic forest to pollinate in the night this cactus.

There could be another species living in the Atlantic forest.
Also, Plecturocebus moloch already are colorful primates. How do you think that we could make their descendants' colors more impressive?

 Отправлено: 23.06.23 20:23. Заголовок: JOrnitho пишет: The..

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There could be another species living in the Atlantic forest.

Another species of bees? Megalopta has a lot of species and they all are all nocturnal as I no. So yes, it will be another species of Megalopta in the Atlantic forest.
But I should look for more information about of the descendents of both species of Megalopta: from mata secas and from Atlantic forest.

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How do you think that we could make their descendants' colors more impressive?

I think, we should make it

 Отправлено: 23.06.23 22:48. Заголовок: wovoka пишет: I thi..

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I think, we should make it

Yes! Maybe they could develop some sexual dimorphism, with males being more colorful. Maybe they attract the attention of predators while the dull colored females flee.

 Отправлено: 24.06.23 12:50. Заголовок: JOrnitho пишет: Yes..

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Yes! Maybe they could develop some sexual dimorphism, with males being more colorful. Maybe they attract the attention of predators while the dull colored females flee.

Good idea!

 Отправлено: 25.06.23 14:48. Заголовок: JOrnitho, what do yo..

JOrnitho, what do you think about the beginning https://sivatherium.borda.ru/?1-6-1687693434682-00000303-000-0-0#008
Sorry everything is in Russian.

Will be grateful for the ideas for the chapter

 Отправлено: 25.06.23 15:11. Заголовок: wovoka пишет: JOrni..

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JOrnitho, what do you think about the beginning https://sivatherium.borda.ru/?1-6-1687693434682-00000303-000-0-0#008 Sorry everything is in Russian.

I like it! About your idea of a lemur-like mongoose, I think that you could make it more like the honey-mongoose from Neocene Madagascar. This animal could be more fruit eating and perhaps honey eating, while having a squirrel like appearance.

 Отправлено: 25.06.23 16:54. Заголовок: JOrnitho пишет: I l..

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I like it! About your idea of a lemur-like mongoose, I think that you could make it more like the honey-mongoose from Neocene Madagascar. This animal could be more fruit eating and perhaps honey eating, while having a squirrel like appearance.

Honey-eating mongoose can be relative species. But he will be competitor of Black jaguape how can we share their econiches?

 Отправлено: 25.06.23 20:18. Заголовок: wovoka пишет: Honey..

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Honey-eating mongoose can be relative species. But he will be competitor of Black jaguape how can we share their econiches?

Good point. We can leave the mongoose as a fruit eater, perhaps even drinking nectar occasionally. It could also visit hives that the jaguape assaulted to see if they can find some honey left behind.

 Отправлено: 24.07.23 00:30. Заголовок: JOrnitho, I'm to..

JOrnitho, I'm tortured with your Gatito, look, which of the drawing do you like the most?
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1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30.

And this is Noronha rat, which picture of rat is better?
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1. 2. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11.

I numbered the pictures, so just name the numbers of pictures you most like.

 Отправлено: 24.07.23 01:52. Заголовок: wovoka пишет: JOrni..

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JOrnitho, I'm tortured with your Gatito, look, which of the drawing do you like the most?

I think that the number 8 is the closest to what I thought that the gatito would be. For the rat, I think that the number 2 works. We can assume that the tail is hidden behind its body.

 Отправлено: 26.07.23 00:24. Заголовок: JOrnitho, I was tryi..

JOrnitho, I was trying to make Rapa Nui rat.

Which of the pictures depicts your idea at least a little (or can be corrected with Photoshop)?

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1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. Same picture but gave the rat some grains 20.

Rat with baby rat.
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21.

Baby rats
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22. 23.

I numbered the pictures again, so just name the numbers of pictures you most like.

 Отправлено: 26.07.23 01:35. Заголовок: wovoka Good images!..

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Good images!
But this "baby rats" are not baby - baby rays are very small and naked, not only smaller than adults. This rats are probably juvenile.

 Отправлено: 26.07.23 01:59. Заголовок: лягушка пишет: juve..

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juvenile

Yes, I mean it, sorry for my English.

 Отправлено: 26.07.23 02:44. Заголовок: wovoka пишет: Which..

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Which of the pictures depicts your idea at least a little (or can be corrected with Photoshop)?

I think that the number 12 could be modified in Photoshop to match the reddish-brown color of the Rapa Nui rat.