Отправлено: 03.07.22 18:18. Заголовок: Chapter Ideas

A collection of new chapter ideas proposed by foreign members in English.
These are already present, thanks to JOrnitho:
1. Easter Island - bestiary
2. Fernando de Noronha - bestiary
3. Marvellous Forest - about Atlantic forest - bestiary
4. A Trip across Highland - about a trip of Andean antelope, bestiary
5. A War for the Hollow - about a "war" against killer bees in South America, bestiary
6. Andaman and Nicobar islands - bestiary
7. A Stone Condominimum - about a sociable hornero and its parasites and enemies, bestiary

 Отправлено: 03.07.22 18:23. Заголовок: Easter Island bestia..

Easter Island bestiary:
False nandu
Rapa Nui caracara
White crested pigeon
Owl harrier
Kumara, giant banana, uhi, nga'atu - four plant species
Rapa Nui rat
Dwarf junglefowl
Timid rail
Heavy-billed parrot
Rapa Nui thrush

 Отправлено: 03.07.22 18:28. Заголовок: Fernando de Noronha ..

Fernando de Noronha bestiary:
A hawk
A heron
Pin-tailed dove
Koriko, a rodent
Noronha rat
Gatito
Insular racket-tailed tyrant & Noronha cardinal

 Отправлено: 03.07.22 18:57. Заголовок: I was thinking about..

I was thinking about a chapter happening in the Serra do Mar (click here) mountain range. However, I don't know if it would still exist in the Neocene.

 Отправлено: 04.07.22 11:27. Заголовок: JOrnitho I think ye..

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I think yes, it will still exist.

 Отправлено: 08.07.22 22:48. Заголовок: After I made descrip..

After I made description of the Tamoio cat, I had an idea for the chapter in the Atlantic forest. It would follow the life of a Tamoio cat and the other fauna of the lowland Atlantic forest of Southeastern South America in the area that once was Rio de Janeiro. What do you think? It could mention what happened with Guanabara bay.

 Отправлено: 09.07.22 12:53. Заголовок: JOrnitho Good idea!..

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Good idea! Do you have fauna for that?

 Отправлено: 09.07.22 17:36. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: Do yo..

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Do you have fauna for that?

Yes! Beyond the Tamoio cat, I was thinking that the Grey-headed marmoset (Neocallithrix griseocephalus), the Common sugar opossum (Nectarivora nectarivora), Blue-fronted macaw (Araguari cyanofrons), the Great Suindara (Tuidara magna) and the Great inamu (Noctotinamus solitarius). There could be other species too, perhaps these that could be large predators. Is there any in the Russian part of the forum that could appear?
I also proposed some plants that could appear: the
Atlantic cherry (Eugenia atlantica) and the
Lowland jamelan (Neosygyzium esculentus)

 Отправлено: 09.07.22 18:08. Заголовок: JOrnitho These are ..

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These are great ideas!

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Grey-headed marmoset (Neocallithrix griseocephalus), the Common sugar opossum (Nectarivora nectarivora), Blue-fronted macaw (Araguari cyanofrons), the Great Suindara (Tuidara magna) and the Great inamu (Noctotinamus solitarius)

Great list!

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There could be other species too, perhaps these that could be large predators. Is there any in the Russian part of the forum that could appear?

Atlantic forest seems to be not covered yet, so new species are OK here.

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I also proposed some plants that could appear: the Atlantic cherry (Eugenia atlantica) and the Lowland jamelan (Neosygyzium esculentus)

Good! A chapter is almost full! (that is, once you describe those listed above)

 Отправлено: 09.07.22 19:29. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: that ..

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that is, once you describe those listed abov

I already described them. The plants are in the Plant topic and the animals are in the one about Fauna of South America.
Also, I was thinking that this chapter could also show the struggle of the Tamoio cat in surviving in the shadow of a large terrestrial predator. Would be necessary to make the description of one or is there any species in the Russian part of project that could be used as the predator in the chapter?

 Отправлено: 09.07.22 20:56. Заголовок: JOrnitho a large te..

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a large terrestrial predator. Would be necessary to make the description of one or is there any species in the Russian part of project that could be used as the predator in the chapter?

Is illapa OK for that?

 Отправлено: 09.07.22 22:03. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: Is il..

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Is illapa OK for that?

It works perfectly. Even if it already appeared in the chapter "Three Fates in Selva", the illapa could be a good predator for the chapter. Since it fills the niche of the harpy eagle, this could easily kill a Tamoio cat. And the chapter could mention how this bird is a population or subspecies of the Amazon one. Decades ago a population of harpies also lived in Rio de Janeiro.

 Отправлено: 10.07.22 11:35. Заголовок: JOrnitho So this is..

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So this is the bestiary for Atlantic forest, the chapter "Marvellous Forest":
Atlantic cherry and lowland jamelan
Grey-headed marmoset
Common sugar opossum
Blue-fronted macaw
Great Suindara
Great inamu
Tamoio cat
Great false woodpecker
Eyra
Panapanas
Southern night tapaculo
Gold-fronted erythrophonia
Rufous-bellied choca, or Rufous-bellied antshrike
Crested singing falcon

 Отправлено: 16.07.22 16:32. Заголовок: I had an idea for an..

I had an idea for another possible chapter. This one would follow a young female of Andean antelope during her first migration to their calving grounds. It could show the animals and plants that they see on their path and the possible predators. Is there any already established animal that could be their predator in the Andean plateau?

 Отправлено: 16.07.22 19:50. Заголовок: JOrnitho I believe ..

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I believe there's no antelopes there. But what is an "andean antelope"? Do you mean a pudu? If so, it is a good idea! A pudu descendant could be large, the size of a wild boar or so.

 Отправлено: 16.07.22 20:30. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: I bel..

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I believe there's no antelopes there. But what is an "andean antelope"? Do you mean a pudu? If so, it is a good idea! A pudu descendant could be large, the size of a wild boar or so.

Sometime ago I proposed an antelope-like descendant of the goat living in the Andes. The description is on the South America topic.

 Отправлено: 17.07.22 11:42. Заголовок: JOrnitho Oh, sorry,..

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Oh, sorry, I forgot that due to some nervousness about the war we have here. Yes, your idea is a good one! I can even propose a name for the chapter: "One Year in Highland". How is it?

 Отправлено: 17.07.22 16:07. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: forgo..

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forgot that due to some nervousness about the war we have here.

No problem! I hope that everything is fine with and your family.

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I can even propose a name for the chapter: "One Year in Highland". How is it?

I like that name! I have ideas for some other animals and plants, but we could use descriptions of fauna and flora of the Andean Plateau that were proposed by other people, but never appeared in a chapter. Also, there is any already described predator that could live in the plateau?

 Отправлено: 17.07.22 21:07. Заголовок: JOrnitho we could u..

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we could use descriptions of fauna and flora of the Andean Plateau that were proposed by other people, but never appeared in a chapter

I believe there ARE such species in the Bestiary.

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predator that could live in the plateau

What kind of predator? A mammal or a bird?

 Отправлено: 18.07.22 11:54. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: I bel..

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I believe there ARE such species in the Bestiary.

I'll give a look in the bestiary, but will need help with the Russian part.

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A mammal or a bird?

A mammal. Like how the cougar was the top predator in the Andes during the Holocene. A large bird of prey could appear in the chapter too, but would not be the main predator of the antelopes.

 Отправлено: 18.07.22 13:07. Заголовок: JOrnitho Now I see...

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Now I see.
I found one species of uktena - the king uktena (a canine predator, descendant of Guatemala coyote):
http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/mammals.htm#vafercyon_regius_ru
Also, the jaguape are present, but they are smaller (weasel) predators.

By the way, there's an Andean deer there, a descendant of mazama:
http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/mammals.htm#oromazama_andina_ru

Another fauna would include the mountain suckermouth (a catfish), and the flora has the drying cryobromelia (both the fish and the plant are present in English part of Bestiary).

 Отправлено: 18.07.22 15:12. Заголовок: Биолог The uktena co..

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The uktena could work perfectly as the predator that the Andean antelope is constantly evading during their migration, like how the Tibetan wolf is a top predator in tge Himalaya. Perhaps there could be a descendant of the cougar as another specialized predator for high altitudes.
The jaguape, suckermouth and Andean deer could fit perfectly fit as animals that they see during migration. The cryobromelia is also a good plant for the chapter.

 Отправлено: 18.07.22 16:00. Заголовок: JOrnitho Good, so I..

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Good, so I collect a list of the chapter's species.
The chapter is One Year in Highland - about Andes:
Andean antelope
King uktena - Russian
Andean jaguape
Andean deer - Russian
Andean raptor cat
Rapacious parrot
Andean mountain cock
Mountain suckermouth
Drying cryobromelia
Red-billed bullfinch, Mountain redgem and Andean lesser groundowl
Andean social cuy
Great inverted skin mite
Chinchillone-gordito

 Отправлено: 19.07.22 18:50. Заголовок: Corrected a typo in ..

Corrected a typo in the list above.

 Отправлено: 21.07.22 01:56. Заголовок: I was thinking about..

I had more ideas about the story of the chapter of Fernando de Noronha. It could follow a year in the Archipelago, even showing how the great magnificent booby arrive here to form colonies to nest in the rock islets, sharing the place with the larger diving albatrosses that also breed here. Their colonies could be visited by a couple of griffon skuas that turned the Archipelago in their summer resting grounds.

 Отправлено: 21.07.22 12:02. Заголовок: JOrnitho Good! But ..

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Good! But this way we'll end up with as many as four "year"-chapters Two are already present in the project, and two are proposed by you.

 Отправлено: 21.07.22 15:44. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: But t..

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But this way we'll end up with as many as four "year"-chapters Two are already present in the project, and two are proposed by you.

If it's too much, maybe we could split the chapter in two different ones? One being about the terrestrial species that live in the Archipelago, while the other is about the seabirds and other migratory species. The marine tegu could appear on this one too.

 Отправлено: 21.07.22 17:58. Заголовок: JOrnitho I do not t..

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I do not think it is worth splitting - the problem is with its structural composition, not overloading of species. If we could compose it in a way other than "year of", it would be just fine! Also, a biotope has a closely interconnected set of inhabitants (a biocenosis), so including both terrestrial animals and sea birds is OK.

 Отправлено: 21.07.22 19:04. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: I do ..

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I do not think it is worth splitting - the problem is with its structural composition, not overloading of species.

Ah right. I thought that there was too much species. In this case it could follow the life cycle of some animals of the Archipelago, like how the chapter "Three Fates in Selva" did. For example, it could follow a gatito, a great magnificent booby, a long-legged hawk and a marine tegu.

 Отправлено: 21.07.22 20:26. Заголовок: JOrnitho I thought ..

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I thought that there was too much species.

No, the project already has chapters with about 15 or even 20 species.

 Отправлено: 22.07.22 14:05. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: or ev..

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or even 20 species.

No, the maximum was 17 species.

 Отправлено: 22.07.22 17:40. Заголовок: wovoka I meant I wa..

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I meant I was not sure by saying "or even", which is like "around" or "about".

 Отправлено: 22.07.22 14:36. Заголовок: I was thinking that ..

I was thinking that maybe the jaguape shouldn't appear on the chapter about the Andes. It have a relationship with the bee-eater tanager and bees that could be explored in another chapter. This other chapter could show the fierce competition between these insects and birds for the three holes in the Amazon rainforest. It could also show the animals that evolved to eat bees and the cavity nesting birds that adapted to the pressure of the insects, such as using leaves of the repellent tobacco in their nest or building it in cliffs and rock crevices.
A possible name for it could be "War for Tree Cavities".

 Отправлено: 22.07.22 17:44. Заголовок: JOrnitho Another go..

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Another good idea! But the name would sound more interesting as "A War for the Burrow" or "A War for the Hollow".

 Отправлено: 22.07.22 18:07. Заголовок: JOrnitho пишет: I w..

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I was thinking that maybe the jaguape shouldn't appear on the chapter about the Andes. It have a relationship with the bee-eater tanager and bees that could be explored in another chapter. This other chapter could show the fierce competition between these insects and birds for the three holes in the Amazon rainforest. It could also show the animals that evolved to eat bees and the cavity nesting birds that adapted to the pressure of the insects, such as using leaves of the repellent tobacco in their nest or building it in cliffs and rock crevices. A possible name for it could be "War for Tree Cavities".

About jaguape I have already written a small fragment in Russian here
This fragment was not included in the chapter about the Amazonian selva.
I have moved this text here. You can use the online translator.

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Фрагмент главы об охоте на пчёл Невдалеке от зарослей лантаны поломики живет стая амазонских пчелоядных танагр. Это птицы длиной 22 см с размахом крыльев 24 см. Самцы ярко-голубые с чёрными первичными, вторичными и третичными маховыми перьями и хвостом. Самки серовато-голубые с тёмно-серыми крыльями и хвостом. Молодой самец громко поёт, чтобы привлечь молодую самочку. Он хочет найти судьбу всей своей жизни, которую он никогда не оставит и не предаст. Одна из самочек отозвалась на его зов, но и в данном случае появился соперник. После небольшой драки наш самец оказался побеждён и с позором улетел с поля боя. Создать новую пару суждено его сопернику. Этот соперник стал ухаживать за самкой, подарив ей пучок мха, будущий материал для строительства гнезда. После недолгих брачных трелей оба будущих родителя полетели собирать строительный материал для нового гнезда: пучки мха, корней и черешков листьев. Своё гнездо они спрятали среди густой эпифитной растительности в развилке дерева. Самка отложила 3 яйца белого цвета с узором из коричневых крапинок. 14 дней она будет высиживать яйца, пока самец будет её подкармливать. Потом после вылупления птенцов оба родителя в течении 20 дней будут совместно заботится о своих птенчиках. Повзрослев, птенцы сами создадут свои семьи и продолжат свой род. Амазонские пчелоядные танагры имеют союзника в добывании пищи – это толстоклювые каракары. Поэтому стаи этих двух видов птиц часто соседствуют. Попробуем поближе познакомиться с этими птицами. Самка этого вида крупнее самца: она вырастает до 56 см при размахе крыльев 78 см, тогда как его длина – до 50 см, а размах крыльев 71 см. У птиц обоих полов чёрное оперение с белыми перьями подхвостья. Их горло не голое, как у их предков, но область вокруг глаз лишена оперения, и здесь заметна их красная кожа. Ноги и пальцы сильные, жёлтого цвета. Клюв серого цвета, толстый и крепкий. Молодая пара толстоклювых каракар – самец и самка только образовали новую семью, и эту семью они создали на всю свою без малого тридцатилетнюю жизнь. Пока их семья состоит из одной пары, но со временем семья разовьётся в семейную группу, состоящую не только из родителей, но и старших детей, которые пробудут в семье до своего совершеннолетия, достигаемого в 4 года, и будут помогать родителям в выращивании и воспитании младших братьев и сестёр. Ну а пока молодая семья взялась за создание гнезда из веток и прутьев высоко на деревьях. Через какое-то время самка отложила 5 белых яиц. Оба родителя будут высиживать яйца в течении 30 дней. А еще через 33 дня птенцы полностью оперятся, научатся летать и станут помогать родителям с новым выводком. За несколько километров отсюда (у других лантановых зарослей) рядышком живут более крупные семьи амазонских пчелоядных танагр (14 птиц) и толстоклювых каракар (6 птиц). Одна из танагр нашла огромное пчелиное гнездо и запела на всю сельву призывную песню. На ее зов откликнулись не только ее сородичи, но и их соседи толстоклювые каракары. И, как оказалось, внедалеке отдыхал черный ягуапе. Услышав приятную его слуху песнь, он сладко потянулся и сломя голову помчался на птичий зов. Танагры и каракары только и ждали появления своего главного соратника по пчелиной охоте. Самец ягуапе залез на дерево и сунул лапу в дупло, когда он ее вытащил с нее начал стекать сладчайший мёд. Ягуапе облизал лапу и полез за добавкой. Тысячи пчёл вылетели из дупла и стали жалить ягуапе во все части тела, и в первую очередь в морду. Но тут-то и пригодились ягуапе его помощники: танагры и каракары, которые хватали и хватали сотни пчел. Ягуапе добрался до пчелиного расплода и с не меньшим удовольствием, с каким он поедал мёд, он стал поедать пчелиных личинок. Много личинок падало на землю, но танагры обожавшие это лакомство, стали ловить их на лету. Разорение крупного пчелиного гнезда продолжалось около 15 минут. За это время огромная пчелиная семья была почти полностью уничтожена, но, на удивление, пчелиная царица выжила и это даёт надежду на то, что пчелиная колония со временем возродится. За всей этой сценой наблюдала самка ильяпа, и когда она увидела, что молодая каракара отлетела от стаи, и села на ветку дерева, чтобы перекусить пойманной пчелой, в этот момент самка ильяпа подлетела к ней и как заправская киллерша убила птицу ударом в голову и отправилась к своему гнезду, чтобы накормить своих вечно голодных птенцов. Другие птицы, испугавшись хищника, разлетелись во все стороны, и лишь довольный от сытости ягуапе спокойно слез с дерева и отправился к своему логову, чтобы погрузиться в сладкий, как мёд, сон. А по земле под деревом с разоренным ульем заползали муравьи-тарукува, собиравшие накапавший на землю мёд и упавших личинок. Отоспавшийся после удачной охоты на пчёл, ягуапе выбрался на прогулку по своим владениям, и услышал самое, наверное, приятное для него благоухание. Невдалеке от его логова прошла самка, у которой течка. Возбужденный этим ароматом самец бросился на этот манящий ориентир. Но «парфюм» самки перебил еще один запах – едкое зловоние мочи соперника, пробравшегося на чужую территорию, будучи привлеченным пахучестью готовой к спариванию самки. Оба самца черного ягуапе сильные и агрессивные звери, не готовые так просто сдаться. И их соревнование так легко не закончится. Оба зверя сцепились в кровавой битве, вырывая пучки шерсти друг у друга, и кусая, и царапая один другого до крови. Но хозяин территории, на которую проник неприятель, всё-таки оказался сильнее и с более острыми клыками и когтями. Он сильно повредил сопернику переднюю лапу и это скорей всего приведёт к тому, что соперник не сможет успешно охотиться и наверняка погибнет от голода, а возможно умрёт ещё раньше от заражения крови. Но нашего самца черного ягуапе это не волнует, он как победитель занялся любовью с прекрасной дамой. Вскоре у "прекрасной дамы" родится три крепких детёныша, о которых наш "кавалер" заботиться не будет, полностью взвалив эту ношу на плечи партнёрши. Black jaguape Thick-billed caracara Amazonian bee-eater tanager Four-striped honey bee

 Отправлено: 22.07.22 19:38. Заголовок: wovoka You can use ..

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You can use the online translator.

Like Deepl, which has a well-developed ANN.

 Отправлено: 23.07.22 01:12. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: "..

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"A War for the Hollow"

Oh, I like this one! It describes perfectly the idea of several animals fighting over the tree hollows.

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About jaguape I have already written a small fragment in Russian here This fragment was not included in the chapter about the Amazonian selva.

This is really good! Do you think that it could be used in this new chapter? The bees would be an important part on it, by entering in conflict with the birds for the hollowed trees.

 Отправлено: 23.07.22 12:06. Заголовок: JOrnitho пишет: Thi..

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This is really good!

Thank you!

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Do you think that it could be used in this new chapter?

I hope so!

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The bees would be an important part on it, by entering in conflict with the birds for the hollowed trees.

Good idea!

 Отправлено: 23.07.22 15:28. Заголовок: Is there any already..

Is there any already described animal that could appear on this chapter? Maybe in the Russian language.
It would be interesting to show how some birds lost their nests to the bees.

 Отправлено: 23.07.22 20:40. Заголовок: JOrnitho I proposed..

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I proposed several Andean species and you accepted them to the chapter. Or you mean some special animal?

 Отправлено: 23.07.22 23:43. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: I pro..

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I proposed several Andean species and you accepted them to the chapter. Or you mean some special animal?

I mean in the chapter about the War for the Hollow. There could be other animals to participate in this "war".
By the way, I think that the Andean mountain-cock could appear in the chapter about the Andes, while the great false woodpecker could appear in the one about the Atlantic rainforest. I proposed these birds sometime ago.

 Отправлено: 24.07.22 11:32. Заголовок: JOrnitho OK, I'..

JOrnitho
OK, I'll add those two to corresponding bestiaries and browse through the project's Bestiary for already existing animals for "War for the Hollow".

 Отправлено: 24.07.22 11:55. Заголовок: JOrnitho, if speakin..

JOrnitho, if speaking about the "War for the Hollow" you meant only birds, there's the wasp-eating woodpecker that can participate by hunting the bees. Other animals would include uktenas (non-Andean species) and probably a bat - the swift-winged whiskered bat.

 Отправлено: 24.07.22 15:49. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: JOrni..

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JOrnitho, if speaking about the "War for the Hollow" you meant only birds, there's the wasp-eating woodpecker that can participate by hunting the bees. Other animals would include uktenas (non-Andean species) and probably a bat - the swift-winged whiskered bat.

I like these species! The uktena can be a background species, perhaps hunting the Anhanga deer that I proposed some time ago?
The bat could partially participate in the "war" because some could also use hollowed trees as resting place.
The chapter could also show how some animals developed strategies to escape the "war" by making nests in other places, like the digger parrot (Ampliforpus) from the bestiary that make nests in cliffs. Is there any squirrel or marsupial that could also be part of it?

 Отправлено: 24.07.22 16:24. Заголовок: JOrnitho Among mamm..

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Among mammals, we can also add the ant wolf (Microcyon insectophagus, only Russian description), although it is a specialized ant-eater, and the colash (Volaticocebus colash), a gliding primate. Also, there are panapanas - cotingid birds (by the way, one of them in Atlantic forest).

 Отправлено: 24.07.22 18:01. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: Among..

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Among mammals, we can also add the ant wolf (Microcyon insectophagus, only Russian description), although it is a specialized ant-eater, and the colash (Volaticocebus colash), a gliding primate.

The ant wolf can appear with the other terrestrial animals. The chapter could show how they are oblivious to the conflict happening in the canopy. I was thinking that there could be medium-sized descendants of the barbet that in the lack of tree holes can make nests by excavating cliffs.

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Also, there are panapanas - cotingid birds (by the way, one of them in Atlantic forest).

Maybe they could appear in the Atlantic forest chapter. The War of the Hollows could have some psittacids, I was thinking to that there could be a species that learned to use the leaves of the tobacco in their nests.

 Отправлено: 24.07.22 18:27. Заголовок: JOrnitho OK, I agre..

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OK, I agree!

 Отправлено: 24.07.22 18:54. Заголовок: Here's the besti..

Here's the bestiary for "A War for the Hollow":
Swift-winged whiskered bat
Wasp-eating woodpecker
Uktena species
Ant wolf - Russian
Colash - Russian
Anhanga deer
Manduri
Rainbow bald toucan
Four-striped honey bee
Great inverted skin mite
Bee-eater tanager

 Отправлено: 28.07.22 17:19. Заголовок: I decided to organiz..

I decided to organize the ideas for what could happen in the chapters:
1. Easter Island: It could follow a young male of false-nandu that recently established his own territory and is now preparing for the courtship. While showing its failure and eventual success, the other species of the island would appear.
2. Fernando de Noronha: It could follow the life of the animals in the Archipelago, including the species that arrive here to nest. It could also show migratory birds that stop here (for example, the griffon skua). Some fishes could also appear.
3. Atlantic forest: It could follow the life of the Tamoio cat in the lowland Atlantic forests in what once was the state of Rio de Janeiro. It could show the feline learning how to hunt and avoiding predators, like the eyra.
4. One Year in Highland: A pregnant young female of Andean antelope is doing her first migration through the Andean Plateau toward the safe birthing grounds. She travels with a large herd of other females, avoiding predators (uktenas and raptor cats). During this 300km long migration, other inhabitants of the Altiplano would appear.
5. A War for the Hollow: The conflict between killer bees and the other animals that need to use tree hollows to breed or rest. There could also be the conflict between the killer bees and manduri bees. While it happens, animals that developed ways to nest by digging holes in cliffs are oblivious to the conflict. In the forest floor, uktenas hunts Anhanga deers.

 Отправлено: 28.07.22 17:51. Заголовок: JOrnitho 1. Easter ..

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1. Easter Island: It could follow a young male of false-nandu that recently established his own territory and is now preparing for the courtship. While showing its failure and eventual success, the other species of the island would appear.

Good! This is how quite a number of existing chapters are composed.

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2. Fernando de Noronha: It could follow the life of the animals in the Archipelago, including the species that arrive here to nest. It could also show migratory birds that stop here (for example, the griffon skua). Some fishes could also appear.

Also good. The migratory birds can be mentioned in the text, but not included in the local bestiary.

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3. Atlantic forest: It could follow the life of the Tamoio cat in the lowland Atlantic forests in what once was the state of Rio de Janeiro. It could show the feline learning how to hunt and avoiding predators, like the eyra.

Excellent!

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4. One Year in Highland: A pregnant young female of Andean antelope is doing her first migration through the Andean Plateau toward the safe birthing grounds. She travels with a large herd of other females, avoiding predators (uktenas and raptor cats). During this 300km long migration, other inhabitants of the Altiplano would appear.

Fantastic! We have "A Year of the Traveller Goose" chapter, but another one with similar title is OK. But can the animal have a gestation period long enough for a 300 km trip? The duration of gestation is not stated in your description of the antelope, and a whole year seems fairly too long (the longest is in elephants, 22 months, and in whales it is around one year - about 10 to 14 months).

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5. A War for the Hollow: The conflict between killer bees and the other animals that need to use tree hollows to breed or rest. There could also be the conflict between the killer bees and manduri bees. While it happens, animals that developed ways to nest by digging holes in cliffs are oblivious to the conflict. In the forest floor, uktenas hunts Anhanga deers.

Looks OK.

 Отправлено: 28.07.22 18:38. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: But c..

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But can the animal have a gestation period long enough for a 300 km trip? The duration of gestation is not stated in your description of the antelope, and a whole year seems fairly too long

Well, I was using as the inspiration for this migration the one made by the Tibetan antelope, who walk such distance during three months to give birth. Maybe rather than giving killometers, the chapter could say that their migration lasts for four months.

 Отправлено: 28.07.22 19:04. Заголовок: JOrnitho Yes, sever..

JOrnitho
Yes, several months is OK, and this requires to change the chapter's title. What about "A Trip across Highland"?

 Отправлено: 29.07.22 00:47. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: What ..

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What about "A Trip across Highland"?

I like that!

 Отправлено: 29.07.22 09:28. Заголовок: JOrnitho OK, I'..

JOrnitho
OK, I've already changed it everywhere.

 Отправлено: 30.07.22 22:46. Заголовок: I was thinking that ..

I was thinking that the striped bee, thick-billed caracara, jaguape, manduri bee and bee-eater tanager could be added in the chapter. The jaguape, caracara and bee-eater tanagers are predators of bees that could be hunting the insect. I'm making more two birds that could also appear, one will use the leaves of tobacco to repel insects.

 Отправлено: 31.07.22 11:59. Заголовок: JOrnitho OK, good i..

JOrnitho
OK, good ideas. I will add those you mentioned to the chapter's bestiary.

 Отправлено: 02.08.22 16:51. Заголовок: I had three other id..

I had three other ideas for chapters. One is about the life in a large coastal lagoon and the surrounding restinga in Southeastern South America. The second is about the gallery forests of South America and the endemic fauna that live here when compared to the nearby savannas. The thrid idea is about the migration of birds from North America that need to cross the Atlantic to reach South America. This chapter could be called "The Atlantic Flyway".

 Отправлено: 02.08.22 18:58. Заголовок: JOrnitho All of the..

JOrnitho
All of these ideas, although sounding good, will become a near-copy of already existing chapters. We have a chapter about mangrove coastal forests and an idea about dendronaias thickets in ocean (like your lagoon), then "A Year of the Traveller Goose" (I mentioned it before) and an idea about bird migrations between Americas. South American forests are also covered.
Oh, by the way, some time ago I proposed an idea about social cockroach - the pallaysu - in South American forests, with several commensal and parasitic species in their nests.

 Отправлено: 02.08.22 20:13. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: All o..

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All of these ideas, although sounding good, will become a near-copy of already existing chapters. We have a chapter about mangrove coastal forests and an idea about dendronaias thickets in ocean (like your lagoon), then "A Year of the Traveller Goose" (I mentioned it before) and an idea about bird migrations between Americas. South American forests are also covered. Oh, by the way, some time ago I proposed an idea about social cockroach - the pallaysu - in South American forests, with several commensal and parasitic species in their nests.

Oh, ok! I like the idea of the cockroach. Do you have any idea for the commensal and parasites?

 Отправлено: 03.08.22 03:33. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: an id..

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an idea about bird migrations between Americas.

Is there a chapter about it already being planned?

 Отправлено: 03.08.22 10:37. Заголовок: JOrnitho Do you hav..

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Do you have any idea for the commensal and parasites?

Cockroach idea is here: A City Under Bark
It includes an ant, a mite, an opossum and a harvester (longleg), but is not full. Needs other species.

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Is there a chapter about it already being planned?

Yes, here: A Flower-Paved Road
It is about migration of a hummingbird, includes mammals, reptiles, birds, a tobacco plant, and invertebrates.

 Отправлено: 03.08.22 15:10. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: Cockr..

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Cockroach idea is here: A City Under Bark It includes an ant, a mite, an opossum and a harvester (longleg), but is not full. Needs other species.

Do you think that the Jurumi could appear? It's the arboreal anteater-like armadilo that I proposed sometime ago. It can feed in the ground too.

 Отправлено: 03.08.22 17:50. Заголовок: JOrnitho Yes, thank..

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Yes, thank you! I include it in the bestiary.

 Отправлено: 06.08.22 17:44. Заголовок: Биолог I think that ..

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I think that the Rapa Nui thrush, Heavy-billed parrot, the timid rail, dwarf junglefowl and the Rapa Nui rat could appear in the chapter about Easter Island. I proposed them sometime ago and their description is in the topic about Fauna of Pacific Islands.

 Отправлено: 06.08.22 18:49. Заголовок: JOrnitho OK, I add ..

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OK, I add them there. This will make 9 species of vertebrate animals and 4 species of plants. Quite a full chapter for a rather small island.

 Отправлено: 06.08.22 19:00. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: OK, I..

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OK, I add them there. This will make 9 species of vertebrate animals and 4 species of plants. Quite a full chapter for a rather small island.

I see. Maybe we can remove one of the vertebrates? The dwarf junglefowl could be removed and I use this species to live somewhere else. In this case, I would edit the description to have the bird living in other islands.

 Отправлено: 06.08.22 19:03. Заголовок: JOrnitho You do not..

JOrnitho
You do not have to remove or edit anything. I said it was quite full, not overfilled or overloaded Feel the difference of words

 Отправлено: 06.08.22 19:48. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: You d..

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You do not have to remove or edit anything. I said it was quite full, not overfilled or overloaded Feel the difference of words

Oh, ok. I thought that you meant that the island was too full of animals for it size. Hahahaha

 Отправлено: 10.08.22 19:35. Заголовок: I was thinking that ..

I was thinking that the title of the chapter about the Atlantic forests could "Marvelous Forest" or "Marvelous Land". It would be an reference to how Rio de Janeiro is called "Cidade Maravilhosa" (Marvelous City).

 Отправлено: 11.08.22 10:52. Заголовок: JOrnitho OK, good n..

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OK, good name.

 Отправлено: 11.08.22 10:57. Заголовок: And here's the b..

And here's the bestiary for the Andaman and Nicobar:
Emperor junglefowl
Dwarf chital
Strong-jawed dog
Andaman flying squirrel
Indian hawk-eagle
Katchall flying squirrel
Striped coconut rat

 Отправлено: 26.08.22 18:07. Заголовок: And one more chapter..

And one more chapter is started - A Stone Condominimum, about sociable hornero and its parasites and commensals:
White-throated obrero
Dwarf kestrel
Godelo
Boiuna
Scabioid chewing-louse
Southern guandira, or Southern dwarf leaf-nosed bat
Jurupari

 Отправлено: 12.10.22 00:01. Заголовок: I was thinking if we..

I was thinking if we could start talking about the chapter about Easter Island. I think that it already had enough species.

 Отправлено: 12.10.22 07:44. Заголовок: JOrnitho Quite so, ..

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Quite so, but I am pretty busy currently, so I temporarily cannot take part actively. Sorry, JOrnitho.

 Отправлено: 24.12.22 19:11. Заголовок: JOrnitho I want to w..

JOrnitho
I want to write chapter about Andaman Islands using your idea, but there are emperor junglefowl in it. This bird dwells in Nicobaras, other archipelago that is away from Andaman in about 150 km.
So, l can't use it in chapter. Do you agree?

 Отправлено: 25.12.22 12:24. Заголовок: лягушка I would not..

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I would notice that dryland bridges could exist there during pre-neocene cataclysms. Later, the bridges disappeared, but the fauna is of common origin and thus quite related. This is how JOrnitho thought the events could have developed by neocene, and that's why he inluded all islands as a whole archipelago there.

 Отправлено: 25.12.22 20:17. Заголовок: Биолог JOrnitho I wo..

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I would notice that dryland bridges could exist there during pre-neocene cataclysms.

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As Биолог said, I thought that some dryland bridges could have formed between these islands. The glaciation in the transition between Quaternary and Neocene could have allowed it to happen.

Did it happen in the Pleistocene? They are pretty far from the mainland. Could you show me a map of the seafloor there?

 Отправлено: 25.12.22 19:58. Заголовок: лягушка As Биолог sa..

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As Биолог said, I thought that some dryland bridges could have formed between these islands. The glaciation in the transition between Quaternary and Neocene could have allowed it to happen.

 Отправлено: 25.12.22 20:03. Заголовок: Bridges in time of g..

Bridges in time of glaciation or in true neocene (25 my)?
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There one big shelf " tentacle" of the continent in bottom of Indian Ocean, but it's quite deep, so it didn't turned to peninsula in Pleistocene.

 Отправлено: 26.12.22 10:26. Заголовок: лягушка Bridges in ..