Отправлено: 02.06.23 19:58. Заголовок: Chapter drafts

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 Отправлено: 02.06.23 20:17. Заголовок: The chapter draft of..

The chapter draft of "Marvellous Forest"


In the Atlantic forest, the berries of the Atlantic cherry ripened, and many species of animals hurried to the grove of these trees to eat the berries.
A herd of Mborevis walk through the forest to eat berries and the branches of the tree, followed at a respectful distance by pukutenti ka'awanaku, that also want to eat berries. A knock is heard from afar, this is a great false woodpecker, looking under the bark of a tree for beetle larvae.
But the Mborevi who came to the grove saw that the trees were already occupied by grey-headed marmosets, who had already overeat berries and had fun by chasing the sugar opossum, which they had driven out of the hollow in which he was sleeping peacefully with a sweet daytime sleep. But the stupid game ended quite unexpectedly, the sleepy opossum was grabbed by a crested singing falcon that had flown in from nowhere. The monkeys ran away out of fear, giving the Mborevi an opportunity to eat in peace. But they did not have to eat for a long time, because screams were heard from the bushes. One of the monkeys was caught by a saber-toothed opossum - pukutirai gaba or neocladosiktis (the descendant of Didelphis albiventris, that look like miocenic cladosictis), this is a nocturnal animal, but the cries of the monkeys woke him up and he managed to grab one of the monkeys who decided to hide from a bird of prey on the ground, but, unfortunately for ше, right next to the neocladosiktis hole. The screams of the monkeys attracted the attention of other predator as well. And the nocturnal predator will have to protect its prey from another nocturnal predator, also awakened by the monkeys: cat Tomoyo. The long battle for the monkey led to the fact that the predators simply tore the prey apart. And everyone went to eat what he got. But the bloody feast did not end at this time. While the Mborevi were distracted by the battle of two predators for a monkey, a male Eyra attacked a pukutenti ka'avanaku cub, and herd of forest litopternoagouti couldn't save it. The hungry predator dragged the cub into the thicket of the forest...

JOrnitho, what do you think, would this intro fit the chapter?

 Отправлено: 02.06.23 20:44. Заголовок: JOrnitho, what do yo..

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JOrnitho, what do you think, would this intro fit the chapter?

I am not JOrnitho, but I like it very much!

 Отправлено: 02.06.23 22:37. Заголовок: медведь пишет: but ..

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but I like it very much!

Медведь, thank you!

 Отправлено: 10.06.23 14:05. Заголовок: A clear outline of t..

A clear outline of the chapter "Marvellous Forest" did not work out, but the outline ideas are the follows:
1. You can describe the mating season of all the mentioned species of animals.
2. And I propose to make a male Eira one of the main characters, but to make him an unusual story. In the Neocene there has not yet been described a case where an animal of one species was brought up by an animal of another species, which occurs periodically in nature. What if an Eira cub loses its mother, who dies while hunting for mborewi, and a female Jaguarete loses a cub, let's say, a baby playing near a hole is dragged away by a Crested singing falcon? A female Jaguarete will find a hungry baby Eira and raise him into an excellent hunter.
You can describe how he will grow up and gradually learn to hunt, first small birds, then larger parrots, then Grey-headed marmosets, Great inamu, Lithopternoagoutis and finally young Mborewi. It is possible to describe the battle of an already adult male Eira with a young male Mborevi.
But only if Eira mail is brought up by a female Jaguarete, then he most likely will not be able to create a pair with a female Eira, he will not perceive her as a representative of his species. Although the instinct of reproduction may win? May be he make the family with female Jaguarete, but they will not have cubs.
2. It can be some kind of symbiosis between Eira and Great suindara: at twilight, Eira and Suindara can deliberately frighten the herd of sleeping litopternoagouti from different sides, so that it scatters in different directions, and Eira and Suindara can grab the frightened cubs that have run away.
3. Another storyline is the life of the Mborewi and their companions" the Litopternoagouti, as well as the tick-eater parrots Tiriba that constantly accompany them. You can describe the life of both herds and parrots flock, how hierarchies are established, how youngs are raising, about confronting with predators. The role of Mborevi in the formation of the forest, the creation of forest trails, the emergence of new young vegetation along the trails, the role of litter, in fertilizing the soil. And, for example, the Giant inamu, Rufous-bellied choca, and Southern night tapaculo will look for worms in the litter, and they will be hunted in these places by the Tamoio cat.
4. Then you can tell about small birds separately, about the forest canopy, about fruit and berry trees, the life of parrots and other birds on them, Common sugar opossums and Grey-headed marmosets. About competition between small birds for the holes in the trees for nesting made by the Great false woodpecker. Particularly much attention should be devoted to the collective life of monkeys. Parrots and marmosets will compete for fruit but warn each other when a Crested singing falcon approaches. And also about the life of the Tamoio cat and Neoladosiktis as predators, hunting in the forest canopy and periodically colliding for prey.
5. I can be described as Tamoio cat robbing a Crested singing falcon's nest, eating the nestlings and the one unhatched egg, and then describing the cat's encounter with a male and female Singing falcons trying to avenge the robbery of the nest.
6. You may describe the hunt of Neocladosictis for a descendant of an armadillo Dasypus novemcinctus. By the way, we have not figured out what new features it will have compared to its ancestor.
7. Separately, part of the chapter can be devoted to the unusual polygamous life of the Giant inamu and the hunting of them by the Great suindara.
8. There may also be a fragment in the chapter where a Suindara kidnaps a baby of Litopternoagouti.

There are such ideas. JOrnitho, what do yo think?

 Отправлено: 10.06.23 14:53. Заголовок: wovoka пишет: 2. An..

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2. And I propose to make a male Eira one of the main characters, but to make him an unusual story. In the Neocene there has not yet been described a case where an animal of one species was brought up by an animal of another species, which occurs periodically in nature. What if an Eira cub loses its mother, who dies while hunting for mborewi, and a female Jaguarete loses a cub, let's say, a baby playing near a hole is dragged away by a Crested singing falcon? A female Jaguarete will find a hungry baby Eira and raise him into an excellent hunter. You can describe how he will grow up and gradually learn to hunt, first small birds, then larger parrots, then Grey-headed marmosets, Great inamu, Lithopternoagoutis and finally young Mborewi. It is possible to describe the battle of an already adult male Eira with a young male Mborevi.

I don’t think that it would be possible. Animals don’t usually adopt others of different species. When it happens with predators, I don’t think that the baby reach adult age.

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There are such ideas. JOrnitho, what do yo think?

The 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 are vey good ideas. They would fit well in the chapter.

 Отправлено: 10.06.23 18:15. Заголовок: JOrnitho пишет: I d..

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I don’t think that it would be possible. Animals don’t usually adopt others of different species. When it happens with predators, I don’t think that the baby reach adult age.

There are two famous cases that female of lion adopted cub of leopard in Tanzania and India.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/lioness-seen-nursing-leopard-cub-tanzania-180964067/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/lioness-lion-adopts-leopard-cub-india-gujarat-gir-a9364421.html

Maybe the femail of jaguarete will not grow the cub to the adulthood and expel him after seven or eight months, but at the same time will teach him the basics of hunting, and then he will somehow learn to survive. I think it would be an interesting storyline of the chapter.

Оффтоп: By the way ocelot and puma capable of hybridization https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/zoo.1430120305 (jaguarundi is also from genus puma), but i think the hybrids are sterile.

 Отправлено: 10.06.23 18:28. Заголовок: JOrnitho пишет: Ani..

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Animals don’t usually adopt others of different species.

This is creationist sight but they give links on scientific literature about interspecies adoption:
https://theconversation.com/animal-adoptions-make-no-evolutionary-sense-so-why-do-they-happen-159722

 Отправлено: 11.06.23 01:39. Заголовок: wovoka пишет: This ..

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This is creationist sight but they give links on scientific literature about interspecies adoption: https://theconversation.com/animal-adoptions-make-no-evolutionary-sense-so-why-do-they-happen-159722

I know, but would be plausible for a Jaguarete to adopt an eira? Recently a lioness adopted a leopard cub, but I don't know what happened with it. Maybe we should ask the author about his opinion in this matter.

 Отправлено: 11.06.23 06:51. Заголовок: Let us ask him...

Let us ask him.