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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 25.03.22 17:24. Заголовок: Galliformes and other animals for South America


Hello! I'm back with ideas for some new species for South America. I found in my computer an archive with some ideas for fauna and flora that I had some time ago and decided to show there to ask your opinion about them. The first is about a descendant of the domestic chicken.

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I also have in this archive some names for possible species that I never developed bayond some few facts. Maybe someone could help me make their descriptions.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 05.09.22 21:12. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: So, ..


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So, a large predatory bat (like holocenic greater bulldog bat, or the fishing bat) has more chances!


Then it'll be bat. I already have a name for it: Jurupari, a nocturnal demon from the indigenous people of Brazil

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The nightjar's beak and claws seem too weak to catch, kill and tear apart a prey. Even so small as your bat. And nightjars are too deeply speciaized on small insects.


But there already are large predatory nightjars in the Neocene- merlette and the hawk potoo.

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But there already are large predatory nightjars in the Neocene- merlette and the hawk potoo.


Yes. I thought that the hawk potoo could be a predator of the tiny bat. Int this case it would be a predatory nyctibid.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 06.09.22 07:58. Заголовок: медведь OK, but mak..


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OK, but making something new is more interesting than repeating or remaking pre-existing things, eh?

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 06.09.22 11:52. Заголовок: Of course! I just sa..


Of course! I just said that it is not completely impossible.

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I finished the description of the predatory bat.

Jurupari, or Demonic spectral bat (Vampyrum jurupari)
The human actions during the Holocene caused the decline of many species. Those that survived could continue with their evolution. The jurupari is a direct descendant of the spectral bat (Vampyrum spectrum), one of the survivors of the anthropogenic onslaught of the Holocene. Their name is that of a nocturnal demonic entity of several South American mythologies. This species of bat inhabits the tropical regions of South America.
The jurupari can be considered one of the largest bats of South America, with 30 cm of length and a wingspan of 125 cm. Each of its thumbs has a large, recurved claw that is grooved, similar to those of cats. Its back fur is reddish-brown, long, and soft, while its belly fur is shorter and paler. The forearm is furred on the half closer to the body, but naked on the half closer to the wrist and fingers. It has a robust skull and teeth, with which it delivers a powerful bite to kill its prey.
The jurupari is exclusively carnivorous, consuming birds, rodents, and other species of bat. Additionally, it consumes some insects such as beetles. It carries prey items back to its roost to consume, discarding unwanted parts such as bird feathers, bat wings, and rodent tails. They use echolocation to navigate, creating short pulses of ultrasound at relatively low frequencies. Such characteristics are suited for maneuvering around obstacles while flying low to the ground. It stalks the prey and then lands on it from above, securing the prey by hooking it with its sharp thumb claws. It kills its prey by delivering a forceful bite to the skull.
Like their ancestors, the jurupari are monogamous. Colonies consist of an adult male and female and their offspring. The adult male will bring food back to the roost to provision them. Colonies generally roost in tree hollows, though individuals may roost in caves.
It is a seasonal breeder, with females giving birth at the end of the dry season or the beginning of the rainy season. The litter size is one individual, with offspring called "pups." The mother is very attentive and gentle with her offspring. The male is often in attendance as well and will frequently sleep with both the female and their young completely wrapped up in his wings. They reach sexual maturity with 8 months and have a lifespan of 6 years.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 07.09.22 10:15. Заголовок: JOrnitho Good bat!..


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Good bat!

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 07.09.22 13:20. Заголовок: Interesting! But mod..


Interesting! But modern spectral bats prey primarily on birds that have a strong odor, such as trogons, cuckoos and motmots. Therefore, it may have stronger sense of smell than most other bats. I think its descendant will retain that ability.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 07.09.22 20:29. Заголовок: медведь I think you..


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I think you can be right, but remember that bats catch odorless insects using the echolocation only. Just as dolphins do underwater - dolphins lack olfaction (smell sense) at all!

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 07.09.22 23:07. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: I thi..


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I think you can be right, but remember that bats catch odorless insects using the echolocation only. Just as dolphins do underwater - dolphins lack olfaction (smell sense) at all!


I think that this bat could use both these senses to hunt prey. It would depend of what they are hunting.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 08.09.22 08:31. Заголовок: JOrnitho Yes, sure!..


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Yes, sure! I agree.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 08.09.22 15:16. Заголовок: Биолог I think you c..


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I think you can be right, but remember that bats catch odorless insects using the echolocation only.


But the spectral bat is a fairly large bat, and I have read that there is an upper size limit for terrestrial echolocators. As the spectral bat is close to that limit, its echolocation is not so effective as with smaller bats you mentioned. For that reason, they supplement their echolocation with good sense of smell.
Besides, I did not say that the jurupari would lose its ability to echolocate. I just said that it would be useful for it to retain its ancestor´s sense of smell.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 08.09.22 20:11. Заголовок: медведь Of course, ..


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Of course, the olfaction is a good additive to echolocation. I can also add that oilbirds (guacharo) use echolocation in their caves, but feed on fruit found in the woods at night by olfaction.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 09.09.22 15:49. Заголовок: Besides these specie..


Besides these species, do you have more ideas for other animals that could appear in the chapter?

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 09.09.22 18:32. Заголовок: JOrnitho Speaking o..


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Speaking of oilbirds (guacharo), do you think they will survive holocene and give descendants in neocene?

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 10.09.22 15:06. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: Speak..


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Speaking of oilbirds (guacharo), do you think they will survive holocene and give descendants in neocene?


I think that it's possible. Maybe they could survive in inaccessible parts of the Amazon rainforest.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 10.09.22 16:46. Заголовок: JOrnitho Quite so, ..


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Quite so, but they will still need caves.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 10.09.22 23:42. Заголовок: Биолог пишет: but t..


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but they will still need caves.


Of course. I think that they would not be much different from their ancestors.

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Do you think that would be possible for the screamers (Chauna) develop a less aquatic lifestyle? They would forage in open areas of savannas and occasionally visiting freshwater reservoirs.

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ссылка на сообщение  Отправлено: 04.11.22 11:00. Заголовок: JOrnitho Why not? Q..


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Why not? Quite possible.

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